Xref: utzoo alt.sources:752 news.admin:6058 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!execu!sequoia!rpp386!jfh From: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (John F. Haugh II) Newsgroups: alt.sources,news.admin Subject: Re: An apology, and a question (about uucp in Germany) Message-ID: <16725@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> Date: 23 Jun 89 05:03:27 GMT References: <786@redsox.bsw.com> <1433@laura.UUCP> <16720@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> <4679@ficc.uu.net> Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) Organization: River Parishes Programming, Plano TX Lines: 50 In article <4679@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <16720@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US>, jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (John F. Haugh II) writes: >> My phone bill runs $60 to $100 per month. > >Your phone bill covers a whole lot more than regular Usenet access. You're >a long-distance-link-junkie. Admit it. That doesn't cover long distance charges for news links, that's long distance for MAIL links. You forget, the first rule of this system is [ was, I don't have any rules now ... ] you call me, I don't have the $4,000+ I figure it would take to service 450 hours off hook a month. >Altruism or ego-boosting, it's not an expense that most Usenet sites require. >There are lots and lots of people who just get a local feed and feed local >sites... and probably end up spending $30 a month for all the groups they >care to get. Well, gee. Butchaknow, if SOMEONE didn't take the effort to truck the news into wherever, there wouldn't be the individual groups for someone to pay $30 a month. And you can't get the lines required to service 450+ hours / month of dialtone for only $30 a month. >Not everyone on the net is a 'big boy'. It's just that in Europe, the little >boys pay big-boy rates. No, it's just in Germany they expect everyone to truck news articles around when the item should have been mailed. Our dear friend Axel Fischer(sp) requested that I _post_ patches to login which he had missed because they were [ and obviously did ] going to charge him $35 for the 35K patch I sent him. Apparently this type of behavior is quite common in Germany - several other Germans have made identical requests - post, don't mail. >Perhaps the hobbyists in Germany need to form an alliance independant of >the backbone. From what I understand, they're doing that in Italy. Yes - I've heard about what is going on in Italy and agree 100 percent. I think what unido is doing should be stopped as well. However, posting thigs which should be mailed because Axel doesn't want to pay his fair share appears to be exactly the problem which is causing EUnet to have to take such fascist measures - namely EUnet spends their money to truck news into Europe and the recipients don't want to reimburse them. -- John F. Haugh II +-Button of the Week Club:------------- VoiceNet: (512) 832-8832 Data: -8835 | "AIX is a three letter word, InterNet: jfh@rpp386.Cactus.Org | and it's BLUE." UucpNet : !bigtex!rpp386!jfh +--------------------------------------