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From: jwi@lzfme.att.com (J.WINER)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Adaptive vs. intelligent (was Re: "Intelligence")
Summary: So intelligence learns unnecessary things?
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Date: 12 Jun 89 13:12:43 GMT
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Mark E. P. Plutowski):

| |||	To what degree do you agree that learning is
| |||	a necessary condition of intelligence? 
| |
| | Frans van Otten writes:

| | Now, the question becomes:  What is the minimal amount
| | of simultaneous knowledge and learning necessary to qualify
| | for "intelligent behaviour?"
| |
| | Both are necessary since an adaptive system could "learn"
| | very quickly without dsplaying intelligent behaviour,
| | for instance, by forgetting simple basics.

martin.b.brilliant writes:

| Many years ago, I saw a definition of intelligence that said simply
| that intelligence is the ability to learn.
...
| In reference to "adaptive systems," I wonder what the difference is
| between an intelligent system and an adaptive system.  In one sense of
| the term "adaptive," they are the same.  But "adaptive" can mean
| "designed to be adaptive," rather than "naturally adaptive."  Systems
| we design to be adaptive have strictly limited capacity for learning.
| They adapt to certain conditions in the environment, and then stop.
| They learn nothing further until there is a change in the conditions
| they were designed to adapt to, and even then they don't learn anything
| new, they just unlearn and relearn the same old thing.  People, on the
| other hand, "never stop learning" (old saw).  A system that always
| learns more, building generalization on generalization, or innovation
| on innovation, is intelligent.

Apparently, you think that a system that learns unnecessary (and
possibly incorrect or un-useful) things is intelligent? What about
systems (like people on the radical left, right or center) who
"never stop learning" *incorrect* things? A better definition of an
intelligent system might be one that can cope with unanticipated
(or even random) situations.

Jim Winer ..!lzfme!jwi 

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