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From: jwi@lzfme.att.com (Jim Winer @ AT&T, Middletown, NJ)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Congratulations! You passed the Turing test.
Summary: Sarcasm and inanity are the determinants of intelligence?
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Date: 13 Jun 89 13:12:03 GMT
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Gilbert Cockton writes:

| |Then how valid is the Turing Test?
| |
| |Just what sort of Science did young Mr. Turing have in mind when he
| |decided that subjective opinion could ever be a measure of system
| |performance?
| |
| |How do AI types *REALLY* test their systems?

Oded Maler replies:

| The essence of Turing's test is in the notion of INDISTINGUISHABILITY
| by an observer. There is a machine in Glasgow that posts
| from time to time some sequences of characters that succeed in fooling
| me (even when I'm sober) so that I cannot distinguish it from a human
| local-patriotic social-science-type :-{}. Such a machine passes the Turing
| test. Maybe a stronger observer than myself (exponential, infinite) would
| have caught this imposter.

It is clear, based on the postings to this newsgroup, that to pass the
Turing test and be indistinguishable from a human, a machine must be
at the minimum, sarcastic and inane on occasion. A machine which
does not exhibit emotional response or a sense of humor might be
considered anti-intelligent, but certainly not human. Let us not
become so serious about the bullshit we wade through that we cannot
laugh at ourselves. Flaming is a strictly human activity.

Jim Winer ..!lzfme!jwi 

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