Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!usc!polyslo!sdsu!ucsdhub!sdcsvax!beowulf!pluto From: pluto@beowulf.ucsd.edu (Mark E. P. Plutowski) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Adaptive vs. intelligent (was Re: "Intelligence") Keywords: learning Message-ID: <6660@sdcsvax.UCSD.Edu> Date: 16 Jun 89 18:40:37 GMT References: <6605@sdcsvax.UCSD.Edu> <1319@cbnewsh.ATT.COM> <6626@sdcsvax.UCSD.Edu> <422@edai.ed.ac.uk> Sender: nobody@sdcsvax.UCSD.Edu Reply-To: pluto@beowulf.UCSD.EDU (Mark E. P. Plutowski) Organization: EE/CS Dept. U.C. San Diego Lines: 33 In article Chris Malcolm writes: >In article Mark E. P. Plutowski writes: >> Evolution may be intelligent, by some definitions of >> the term. But, it is not a lifeform, it is not embodied >> within a living thing, ... >Are you sure about that? It certainly doesn't look like a lifeform,... >... But then, if a lifeform lived for millions of >years, minimally occupied a whole planet, and had a specious present of >thousands of years, for example, it would be pretty hard for us >ephemeral hot-heads even to notice it, let alone regard it as a thing of >some kind. I would enjoy a discussion of the Gaia theory (elsewhere), but the pertinent topic here is a question: Is computation = cognition? This particular discussion, "Subject: Re: Adaptive vs. intelligent" focusses on the role of adaptation. So far, we have a couple constructive suggestions, such as: A. Discuss the scope of a the following criteria w.r.t. definitions of intelligence: 1) adaptation (within its lifetime) 2) self-organization 3) initiative B. Consider the role of modelling the external environment: o Is it a necessary condition of intelligence? o If so, does this exclude adaptive processes which (so far as we know) do not internally model their external environment (such as evolution) from meeting the proposed criteria?