Xref: utzoo comp.arch:10370 comp.graphics:6266 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!vsi1!daver!mips!mash From: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.graphics Subject: Re: i82786 R.I.P. ? Message-ID: <22199@winchester.mips.COM> Date: 24 Jun 89 17:50:31 GMT References: <1987@ubu.warwick.UUCP> Reply-To: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 39 In article <1987@ubu.warwick.UUCP> arthur@flame.warwick.ac.uk (John Vaudin) writes: >If this rumour is true then I am interested what implications this has to the >current RISC market. If manufacturers are going to stop production of >chips because sales are not as high as hoped for then what >happens if the 29000/88000/i860/MIPS/SPARC/.... etc. doesn't sell, will >the manufacturers keep production going?? There are so many RISCs on the >market at present that they can't all be successful, so >does this mean that unless you back the winning horse you might be left >with no supply at all ???? This is actually a different situation, because of the software implications, i.e., devices intended to be reprogrammable devices visible to users: a) Not only need to be built for a (reasonably) long time, but b) Had better have followon products that are compatible Hence, choice of a CPU is an even higher-stakes game than choice of a peripheral chip. When a company picks an architecture, it's probably making a 5-10-year committment, and so they think hard about it. These things come in cycles: in the early 80's, there was a fight amongst the various CISC chips, and it took a few years for things to settle out; as you note, the current fight amongst RISCs is similar. Anybody has a choice, whose extrema are: a) Make a very early choice, hoping to get ahead of the competition, taking the risks that the parts may not be the long-term winners, or even, may be withdrawn from the market, which happens, even sometimes from large companies. Not every part described in the trade press is actually built. b) Make a very late choice, where the winners are obvious, but there is no technology advantage over the competition. I've used the analogy before, but it bears repeating: doing a), that is, picking your CPU early in the game, is like playing Russian Roulette where you pick your CPU, pull the trigger, and then wait 1-2 years to see if you've blown your brains out. -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086