Xref: utzoo comp.editors:812 comp.lang.c:19401 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!uxc!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!leah!albanycs!crdgw1!uunet!mcvax!hp4nl!orcenl!bengsig From: bengsig@oracle.nl (Bjorn Engsig) Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.lang.c Subject: Re: C Programmer's Environment Message-ID: <446.nlhp3@oracle.nl> Date: 16 Jun 89 07:06:49 GMT References: <2494481@<14810> <4700039@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: bengsig@oracle.nl (Bjorn Engsig) Followup-To: comp.editors Organization: ORACLE Europe, The Netherlands Lines: 22 [ let's bring this discussion over to comp.editors ] From article <4700039@m.cs.uiuc.edu> by kenny@m.cs.uiuc.edu: | I've had the experience of working on a |system where the sysadmin wouldn't *allow* me to use emacs (which was |on the system, but available only to users with a `documented need') |because `vi is better, anyway.' Annoying, at best; crippling, at |worst. I agree on this - use the tools available which fit your needs best. On the other hand, a few days ago I used news on a machine where I normally don't - and the default VISUAL was emacs which I have never used. Could all you emacs fans please give a good reason for not having an obvious way of getting OUT of emacs, I tried anything like q, Q, x, X various control keys etc., all without very much success. I really don't know how I finally got out of it. Maybe I should just learn emacs - if we had it on this system :-) -- Bjorn Engsig, ORACLE Europe \ / "Hofstadter's Law: It always takes Path: mcvax!orcenl!bengsig X longer than you expect, even if you Domain: bengsig@oracle.nl / \ take into account Hofstadter's Law"