Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!kth!sunic!maxim!prc From: prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: 8-bit mail Summary: Using teletex IA5 not so bad. Message-ID: <742@maxim.erbe.se> Date: 24 Jun 89 21:13:40 GMT References: <759@isaak.UUCP> <127@hafro.is> Reply-To: rclaeson@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) Organization: Huh? Lines: 31 In article <127@hafro.is> gunnar@hafro.is (Gunnar Stefansson) writes: >From article <759@isaak.UUCP>, by woerz%isaak@isaak.uucp (Dieter Woerz): >> Why do we have to wait? As far as I know, teletex is capable to send >> all or nearly all characters used in the ISO 8859/1 writing world. >> Let you MUA convert the ISO characters into teletex when sending mail >> and convert it to ISO 8859/1 when reading mail. >Actually, the MUA and MTA should be completely transparent in this >regard. That's a heck of a lot easier to accomplish than to change all >MUAs to conform to a given transformation standard. There is really no >good reaon why existing mailers should fiddle around with the 8th bit. So how should we then get the messages encoded in the IA5 teletex character set? Get a teletex terminal? :> No, I want to be able to use my terminal with the ISO 8859/1 character set, and I want to be able to communicate with some guy on an IBM mainframe, a PC, a machine with 7-bit ISO 646 terminals (that's ASCII in the U.S.) or even a HP machine with HP's terminals using the Roman-8 character set -- WITHOUT having to do the character set translation in my brain (as I have to do now using RFC- whatever mail). I'd really like to have some machine- or terminal-independent representation of the messages and have a program convert its contents into the character set my terminal happens to use. The question is just if this translation should be performed by the MTA, the MUA or by some program which the MUA pipes the message through before sending it to my termial. And how should the particular program get to know what character set my terminal is using (I think I just found a use for the SVR3 "CHRCLASS" environment variable). -- Robert Claeson E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se ERBE DATA AB