Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: GVP 68030 reviewed in Sentry / 68040 Message-ID: <8906131337.AA06462@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 13 Jun 89 13:37:42 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 18 Sounds like you've got some good rumor sources. Of course the '030 has an internal harvard architecture, so you'd have a good reason to expect the '040 to have one as well. The '040 design does look alot like an 88x00 system; separate MMU/ATC/Cache units for both I and D, 4-set associative like the 88200. Also, they're physically mapped, as opposed to the logically mapped caches on the '030, which is required for bus snooping, and can result in fewer cache flushes in a system that knows how to use a physical cache. I guess the main point against physical caches to date has been the speed loss, but Motorola seemed to have that pretty well taken care of in the '030 anyway, so the '040 should be just fine. The Intel thing with it's single big cache seems an obvious compromise to the world of MS-DOS. Extra wide buses to try and wring more performance out of it is a good idea, but it all ultimately gets crammed into the internal 32 bit bus it looks. -Dave