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From: dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.tech
Subject: Re: Request for testers for Color X11 for Amiga
Message-ID: <800@boing.UUCP>
Date: 14 Jun 89 16:39:03 GMT
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Reply-To: dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck)
Organization: Boing, Milpitas, Ca.
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In article <19430@cup.portal.com> stephan@cup.portal.com (Stephen Derek Schaem) writes:
>
> You might have to charge a little more than that:-).
>But you should think that to run X on an Amiga it will cost you near
>10,000$ to have something correct!
>And if people are looking at prices around for a computer having X,Ethernet,
>VM,HD,Good GFX etc. The amiga wont be in the first place, and the power/price
>will not make up!
Can you provide some specific examples? These are some very general and
subjective comments without required facts to back them up.

> First draw back is in GFX, even a 2500 with a flicker fixer and 19" monitor
>will only have a max of 640x400, You should be able to open around window
>of that size without overlaping...

Not true Let's try 704x484 for actual seeable resolution.
With a2024 software(preV1.4) we can open a 1008x1024 screen and
PAN around in it.

Also the moniterm Viking 1 monitor displays 1008x800 flicker free
and X11 for the Amiga supports it.

> Memory, a 2500 is limited to 4 meg?isnt it? And if you need 3 meg that left
>1 to the user! and if they remap ROM it will be a joke.

Get the facts straight.
First: 2500 is limited to 9 megs of memory, not 4 megs.

The 3 megs for X11 is , 1 meg for server and amigados. 2 megs for user.
Remapping the rom will make everything run faster, and I'm beginning
to see where the real joke is.

> All I want to say is, you project is GREAT but it wont push people how want
>X to get an Amiga for the job.If they are not using the amiga itself they
>wont find X atrective runing on an amiga.

I don't see any evidence that supports this statement. The Amiga is the
lowest cost, reasonable to excellant graphics performance computer that
supports a full X11 system (server AND Clients).


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Dale Luck     GfxBase/Boing, Inc.
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