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From: ch1@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Chris  Helferty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Apple // System Utilities (was Re: Need Chameleon)
Message-ID: <18522@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu>
Date: 21 Jun 89 18:10:53 GMT
References: <8906140600.AA24123@crash.cts.com> <32427@apple.Apple.COM>
Reply-To: ch1@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Jon Pearsall )
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys
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In article <32427@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David Lyons) writes:
>In article <8906140600.AA24123@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-simasd!pro-generic!sb@nosc.mil writes:
>
>Actually, CONVERT will copy files between DOS 3.3 and ProDOS volumes; FILER
>won't.  FILER and CONVERT have not been updated recently, as far as I know.
>
> --Dave Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.          |   DAL Systems

I've had some problems using the convert utility.  Particulary when
converting the un-EXECed Kermit install program from ProDOS to DOS 3.3.
You know... the five Basic programs that are distributed whenever a new
version of Apple Kermit comes out and they have to be Execed under DOS
3.3.  Well, after downloading these with my ProDOS Kermit and converting
them over to DOS 3.3 using CONVERT, I can never get the darn files to
exec all of the way.  They always freeze up and cause the disk drive
to whir forever on a VERIFY command withing the files.  BUT!  If I use
Chameleon to do the O/S transfer then I have no problem.  I've always
figured it had to do with the way <CR>'s and <LF>'s were handled.  This
particular Kermit example has happened before with other files, too.

				Jon M. Pearsall
				NASA Industrial Applications Center
                                University of Pittsburgh