Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Apple // System Utilities (was Re: Need Chameleon) Message-ID: <8906241652.aa14988@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Date: 24 Jun 89 20:50:12 GMT References: Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 32 >In article <32427@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David Lyons) writes: >>In article <8906140600.AA24123@crash.cts.com> > pnet01!pro-simasd!pro-generic!sb@nosc.mil writes: >> >>Actually, CONVERT will copy files between DOS 3.3 and ProDOS volumes; FILER >>won't. FILER and CONVERT have not been updated recently, as far as I know. > >I've had some problems using the convert utility. Particulary when >converting the un-EXECed Kermit install program from ProDOS to DOS 3.3. I recommend you erase all copies of CONVERT as a means of avoiding trouble. In addition to the failure to copy all of large files which someone else mentioned, CONVERT does NOT account for the fact that ProDOS stores text files in ASCII while DOS 3.3 stores in 'negative' ASCII (CONVERT fails to 'flip' the 8th bit when it copies). The Kermit EZ Install uses some obscure code which 'fools' the normal operation of the EXEC processor to accomplish exotic ends. The short version is that the EZ Install will NOT work properly if the 8th bit's cleared (i.e., 'normal' ASCII). I can't imagine why anyone who owns an Apple 2 wouldn't find buying Copy 2+ a worthwhile investment. Copy 2+, and apparently the Chameleon as well, convert the 8th bit properly when transferring between DOS 3.3 and ProDOS (to say nothing of copying the *entire* file). Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] (203) 486-5246 [FAX] (203) 486-2489 [PHONE] 41 49N 72 15W [ICBM] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited)