Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!mit-eddie!bloom-beacon!apple!chuq From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: More on Jasmine (was Re: Jasmine & Rodime Drive Failures) Message-ID: <32606@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 22 Jun 89 18:44:42 GMT References: <3131@shlump.dec.com> Organization: Life is just a Fantasy novel played for keeps Lines: 52 >Doesn't Jasmine quote a 2 day repair/replacement warranty?? Even if they do, they're not paying attention to it. It so happened one of my Jasmine's died this morning. Worked fine last night, suddenly nada. Driveware sees it on the bus, but it isn't a Jasmine device. HD SC Setup doesn't recognize it as a disk. Something went 'ping', obviously (I checked it on another machine. No boot. Checked another disk on the first machine. boots fine. It's the disk). I called ComputerWare, where I bought it. No, it's not in warranty (bought before they extended it to two years). Here's where it gets interesting. We talked over the troubles and tried a few things and it was still dead. CW suggested I try to ship it to Jasmine directly, because they've had major problems getting Jasmine to repair things in a timely fashion. Jasmine, it seems, won't ship parts. You have to send it to them for repair. The CW folks have drives that have been in for repair more than two months. I called Jasmine. You buy it from CW, you repair it through them. Short call, but unproductive. So my drive is in at CW, who will box it up and ship it to Jasmine. Every day, they call up Jasmine and ask about the status of all the drives sent in for repair. Occasionally they get an answer. Most of the time Jasmine ignores them. ComputerWare yesterday, I was told, set a new policy. They are now actively recommending people away from jasmine. if you go in and *have* to buy a Jasmine they will sell one to you, but they're going to try to convince you to buy elsewhere. This is particularly distressing because ComputerWare was the first vendor to sell Jasmine's other than mail-order and CW has been one of their largest volume dealers. If they're being dumped on, imagine what's happening everywhere else. Me? Since I have *no* idea when I'll get my drive back, I'll have to make other arrangements. When it does come back, I'll sell it off. And I can guarantee you that my next drive won't be Jasmine. I've owned three of their drives. One died at 13 months (fixed on warranty). One died at 16 months (in the shop) and one is about 20 months old and solid as a rock. But for how long? and if it does fail, will I be able to get it fixed? (anyone wanna buy a 20 meg hard disk? sheesh). Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.] You are false data. Therefore I shall ignore you.