Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!vax5!z8my From: z8my@vax5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: LogicWorks for Mac Message-ID: <18865@vax5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU> Date: 24 Jun 89 04:36:12 GMT References: <12350@netnews.upenn.edu> Sender: news@vax5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU Reply-To: z8my@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Samuel Paik) Organization: XYNE knowledge structures Lines: 37 In article <12350@netnews.upenn.edu> pakman@scrolls.wharton.upenn.edu (David B. Pakman) writes: >Has anyone heard of LogicWorks for the Macintosh? It is a digital >circuit simulator, not unlike DigSim, archived at sumex. >Any comments? I am looking to evaluate any digital circuit >simulators, emulators, or design tools available. I found laying out circuits in LogicWorks to be too much work. You've got to lay out all the components, then route all of the wires yourself (every little corner you care to turn) It's far too easy for crossed wires to become logically connected, and several cycles of deletions and additions seem to confuse it--some wires become connected internally, though the display shows them unconnected. Usually, at that point, you've start up a new worksheet, and rebuild the circuit... Also, there isn't a whole lot of debugging support. You can start and stop the circuit. That's it. It seems to me that a program of this type should allow multiple views of the circuit, I remember spending a lot of time scrolling around, or adding some wires and logic probes to bring all of the relevent signals and switches onto one screen. Also, the component library is rather small (though it does have a way to add "libraries" of black box components) Finally, the hardcopy output is horrendous. Black box components from "libraries" are bitmapped objects. Single wires can become disconnected on the printout. This may seem harsh: other people seemed to think it was the next best thing to sliced bread (oohh, what an awfull cliche...) But some of these complaints were in common. Sam Paik d65y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu p.s. I used it in a class here at Cornell.