Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac.programmer:7166 comp.sys.mac:33864 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!usc!apple!oliveb!amdahl!esf00 From: esf00@uts.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MS Excel 1.5 Problems Keywords: Excel, DAs, Fragmented Memory Message-ID: Date: 23 Jun 89 17:02:59 GMT References: <2752@ssc-vax.UUCP> Reply-To: esf00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank) Distribution: usa Organization: The Beige Building Full of Bright Engineers, Inc. Lines: 66 In article <2752@ssc-vax.UUCP> ted@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ted Jardine) writes: >I have been experiencing an increasing variety of problems with MicroSoft >Excel 1.5, so thought I would ask others: > > * if they are having the same or similar problems, and > * whether anyone knows if any of these problems are fixed > in Excel 2.2. > >Configuration: >Macintosh II color system; 8 MB memory; 80 MB hard disk; modem; ImageWriter >II printer; System 6.0.3. Several inits and cdevs, including Init Manager, >HeirDA, ApplicationMenu, SoundMaster 1.2, SuitCase II 1.2.3, SuperClock 3.3, >etc. Run Multifinder exclusively. > >Fragmented Memory. >Unless MS Excel 1.5 is loaded immediately after startup, it complains that >memory is fragmented and refuses to load. This includes the case when I >run a desk accessory, such as the Control Panel, right after startup. > >Unable to run DAs. >If MS Excel 1.5 is loaded after startup, once it is in memory any attempt >to run a desk accessory results in a dialog box that indicates there is >not enough memory to run the desk accessory. > >Copying to Diskette Fails. >With MS Excel 1.5 in memory, switching to Finder and copying folders from >my hard disk to a 3.5" diskette (800 KB) almost always results in a message >that one of the folders cannot be opened. The folder exists, and Excel has >not opened that folder, or any folder containing it. Switching to Excel, >quitting, and then re-executing the copy task causes the copy to complete >normally, as expected. > >Display of Startupscreen prevents execution of Excel 1.5. >MS Excel 1.5 will start properly if opened immediately after startup of the >system, whether there are any INITs or CDEVs opened during startup or not. >But inclusion of a Startupscreen in the System Folder, resulting in display >of the startup screen image during startup, causes the Fragmented Memory >symptom to appear. > >Other applications prematurely quit with Excel 1.5 present. >Other applications, particularly Wingz 1.0, may be started successfully >with Excel 1.5 present in memory, but attempts to save files in these >applications result in premature termination of the application with a >dialog that states that an out of memory condition has been detected. >In all cases the amount of available memory exceeds 6 MB, as indicated >by either About Finder or Spy (a debugging init). > >I'm not interested in roasting MicroSoft, even though I sometimes think >that this might be emotionally satisfying. I also think that many of >these problems result from characteristics of both Excel and MacOS. >If there are sufficient responses to this request, I'll summarize and >post the results. Thanks for your time and attention. >-- >TJ {With Amazing Grace} The Piper >aka Ted Jardine CFI-ASME/I >Usenet: ...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ted >Internet: ted@atc.boeing.com -- Elliott Frank ...!{hplabs,ames,sun}!amdahl!esf00 (408) 746-6384 or ....!{bnrmtv,drivax,hoptoad}!amdahl!esf00 [the above opinions are strictly mine, if anyone's.] [the above signature may or may not be repeated, depending upon some inscrutable property of the mailer-of-the-week.]