Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!rice!sun-spots-request From: montanaro@sprite.crd.ge.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun Subject: Re: Sun type-4 keyboard offends Keywords: Hardware Message-ID: <3690@kalliope.rice.edu> Date: 7 Jun 89 16:54:45 GMT Sender: usenet@rice.edu Organization: Sun-Spots Lines: 21 Approved: Sun-Spots@rice.edu X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 8, Issue 16, message 3 of 12 Having used the type-4 keyboard briefly, I agree it has its problems. Most annoying for me were: 1. The backquote key (`) is positioned where the left half of the RETURN key is on the Sun-2/3 keyboards. 2. BACKSPACE is where DELETE used to be. The Sun-2/3 keyboard is not without its faults, however. I think the right keypad should be replaced by a VT100/200 keypad, complete with numerics, arithmetic operators, commas, and periods. Data entry on a Sun-2/3 keyboard is difficult, at best. I also think the inverted "T" arrow key arrangement of the VT200 is the best. I doubt anyone but die-hard VT100 or vi users like the straight "< > ^ v" arrow arragement. Above all, overloading the arrow keys on the numeric keypad keys is a loser, especially when you can't decide what the arrow keys should generate. This confuses more novice Emacs users than just about anything else. I don't know how often I've answered, "Why does '217z' get inserted every time I press the left arrow key?" or, "Why don't the arrow keys work?" Skip Montanaro (montanaro@sprite.crd.ge.com)