Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!bionet!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!tank!mimsy!chris From: chris@mimsy.UUCP (Chris Torek) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: 4.3 Tahoe Summary: finally, an answer I can hand out forever more Message-ID: <18238@mimsy.UUCP> Date: 23 Jun 89 08:03:05 GMT References: <102451@felix.UUCP> Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 108 In article <102451@felix.UUCP> cal@felix.UUCP (Cal J. Myers) writes: >... some recommending getting 4.3 tahoe. So here is my question. >How does one go about it? Who do you talk to? And how much does it cost? To answer this and one other question that appeared recently in this group: The `tahoe' in 4.3BSD-tahoe refers to a series of machines manufactured by CCI [1], Harris [2], Sperry [3], and ICL [4] which were at some point called `Tahoe' machines [5], in much the same way that DEC's [6] VAX-11/780 [7], VAX-11/750 [8], and VAX-11/730 [9] are called `VAX' machines. [10] ----- Notes: [1] Computer Consoles Inc., headquartered in New York state, USA, Earth, Sol system, Outer Spiral Arm, Milky Way galaxy, Andromeda cluster. I am not aware of their UniversPost zipcode polymer pattern. The CCI Power-6/32 was the first Tahoe machine. [2] The Harris HCX-7 and HCX-9 are Tahoes. Harris is also an east coast manufacturer, if I recall correctly. The HCX-9 uses a VMEbus instead of a VERSAbus. [3] What Sperry's name for their Tahoe is I do not know. Sperry is the name for the result of the merge of Burroughs and Sperry Univac. This, too, is an east cost manufacturer. [4] I know not what ICL stands for, nor what their names may be for their Tahoe machines. They are, however, a UK manufacturer. [5] Probably named after the New York state Lake Tahoe (in the Adirondacks?). Anyone at CCI who knows, please correct. [6] DEC is a trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation, yet another east coast company. Strange how all the DOD equipment manufacturers cluster on the left side. :-) [7] Also known as the `Star'. [8] The `Comet'. [9] The `Nebula'. [10] VAX stands for Virtual Address eXtension, according to DEC marketing literature (but N.B. that `marketing literature' is an oxymoron). ----- Now, where was I... repeating the questions: >How does one go about [getting 4.3BSD-tahoe]? In more or less the same way one got 4.2BSD or 4.3BSD: contact Berkeley, sign a license agreement, pay a nominal fee, and receive a tape or three, along with many kilograms of bleached dead tree with little black carbon markings (a.k.a. `documentation'). >Who do you talk to? Berkeley, CSRG; Anne Hughes or Pauline Schwartz, I believe. The telephone number for the CSRG office is +1-415-624-4948. To get 4.3-tahoe, you need only sign an addendum to your 4.3BSD agreement, which was an addendum to your 4.2BSD agreement, which was fortunate for those of us with University Lawyers. >And how much does it cost? That I cannot say. You left out one question: -What do you get on the tape(s)? The tapes contain the full source tree [1] for both the VAX and the Tahoe, including kernel and all user utilities. They also have boot images and binaries FOR THE TAHOE ONLY. The VAX sources were not extensively tested before cutting the master tape, and apparently there are a few glitches. You can expect installation to take some effort. Keith Bostic wrote up some instructions based on reports given back to Berkeley; I imagine these are included with current orders. They should help. Keith would not be unhappy to receieve corrections (aside from having yet another thing to do). ----- Note: [1] There is only a single source tree, but occasionally it takes machine-dependent branches, e.g., for the compilers and for assembly language routines. ----- Relevant addition: [okeeffe.berkeley.edu] Login: bostic Name: Keith Bostic Project: 4BSD Plan: Address: Keith Bostic +1-415-642-4948 457 Evans Hall CSRG, CSD University of California Berkeley, CA 94720 "Yo, Mike!" "Yeah, Gabe?" "We got a problem down on Earth. In Utah." "I thought you fixed that last century!" "No, no, not that. Someone's found a security problem in the physics program. They're getting energy out of nowhere." "Blessit! Lemme look... Hey, it's there all right! OK, just a sec... There, that ought to patch it. Dist it out, wouldja?" -- Fusion, 1989 -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7163) Domain: chris@mimsy.umd.edu Path: uunet!mimsy!chris