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From: earle@MAHENDO.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle)
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Subject: Re: translations vs. hard-coding
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Date: 18 Jun 89 21:05:50 GMT
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In article <8906161233.AA20184@LYRE.MIT.EDU> Ralph Swick writes:
>Your observations and plea are certainly welcomed here.
>We couldn't agree more!
>...
>My only real comment is in defense of at least one of the two
>applications you cite, and others of their generation; it's only
>a (mere :-) matter of time.

In a (vaguely) similar vein, let me add a plea to those of you who have written
contributed software for X11 - please read the new ICCCM and if you find
that your programs are not setting all the `proper' hints for the Window
Manager to allow correct usage of your program, then please consider adding
the necessary code to do so, and re-submit it.

The OPEN LOOK Window Manager (olwm), supplied as the default WM with Sun's 
X11/NeWS, is fiercely ICCCM-compliant, and I have found quite a few contrib
programs that don't set the hints for getting keyboard focus from the WM,
which renders them rather difficult to use (^:

Two immediate examples that come to mind are the X versions of `mazewar'
and `wanderer'.

Thanks,

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