Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!giza.cis.ohio-state.edu!karl From: karl@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: In Moderation: A Moderator's Response Message-ID: Date: 13 Jun 89 03:08:00 GMT References: <41197@bbn.COM> <12113@well.UUCP> <41207@bbn.COM> <4521@ficc.uu.net> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Organization: OSU Lines: 21 In-reply-to: peter@ficc.uu.net's message of 12 Jun 89 19:16:52 GMT peter@ficc.uu.net writes: Well, I don't know if this is still in the monthly posting... but last time I took note it defined Usenet proper is the set of sites recieving all messages in news.announce.important. That's an extremely interesting definition to apply, especially in conjunction with your additional, more rigorous definition later. My comment regarding the non-definability of Usenet addressed cosell@bbn.com's proposition that forwarding "within Usenet" was fine but that problems arose when one takes a person's articles "OUT of Usenet"; I suggested that the concept of "within Usenet" could not be created. Now you have just re-asserted a definition of "Usenet" which makes it positively trivial for a site to fit the definition, hence it can claim to be operating entirely "within Usenet" no matter what its internal policies, redistribution policies, or charging structure: All it need do is make sure that news.announce.important shows up. Oops. --Karl