Xref: utzoo news.groups:10259 news.misc:3248 sci.misc:3634 talk.religion.newage:3478 talk.philosophy.misc:2514 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!ukc!acorn!moncam!rant From: rant@moncam.co.uk (Angry of Mayfair) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.misc,sci.misc,talk.religion.newage,talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: *** CALL FOR DISCUSSION *** Creation of newsgroup sci.skeptic Summary: SKEPSIS != [DIS]BELIEF. Keywords: LET'S GET IT RIGHT FIRST TIME, EH?????? Message-ID: <207@marvin.moncam.co.uk> Date: 20 Jun 89 12:02:55 GMT Organization: Monotype ADG, Cambridge, UK Lines: 27 > Sorry, but a group on skepticism inherently implies bashing, > including SKEPTIC-BASHING. This isn't all bad; some things deserve > to be bashed, though anyone skeptic-bashing in talk.religion.skeptic > should know what they're in for. Skepticism is inherently negative > (which is fine, btw); unlike religions making positive assertions, > those of you who defend the null hypothesis can't really object to > those who are vehemently skeptic about skepticism. It's getting a bit boring, seeing the same old carp written about skepsis, over and over again. At worst, bashing should be incidental; the argument should simply be given a different direction, with **** NO **** judgement for or against an idea. That is the purpose of skepsis - enquiry. I know we're only human, but do you think we could get this one right FROM THE START????? We've already had one complete cockup going in the direction of BELIEF with mail.skeptics (this all belongs to talk.religion.newage, which seems sadly underused unless I'm not getting it all), so PLEASE let's not go the other way. We can all pan things, sometimes with great emotion and skill, but if we do that here, we'll lose sight of the original idea, which is pure and simple unprejudiced enquiry. BTW, skepsis is NOT inherently negative; it is NEUTRAL, and it would NOT be fine if it were negative. There are ALWAYS three aspects of `polarity' - positive, negative and neutral. Belief and disbelief are NOTHING to do with enquiry, so do us all a favour and LEAVE IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!