Xref: utzoo news.misc:3264 news.sysadmin:2514 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hoptoad!tim From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: news.misc,news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Official Legal Announcement regarding Apple's Source Code Message-ID: <7751@hoptoad.uucp> Date: 22 Jun 89 19:17:47 GMT References: <659@whizz.uucp> <653@lopez.UUCP> <1619@infinet.UUCP> Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) Organization: Eclectic Software, San Francisco Lines: 42 In article <653@lopez.UUCP> flash@lopez.UUCP (Gary Bourgois) writes: >BUT you see a lot of Macs in places like Newspapers (The Christian Science >Monitor LOVES THEM) Magazines, small publishing houses, etc. In article <1619@infinet.UUCP> rhorn@infinet.UUCP (Rob Horn) writes: >A minor correction. The CSM *management* loves them. The CSM artists >*hate* them with a passion. (I suffer regular abuse from a CSM artist >who cannot understand how anyone could possibly think Mac's have any >artistic value.) I don't want to continue this discussion in inappropriate newsgroups, but this was too much to let go without comment. I know a number of professional artists (that is, people who make a significant portion of their income through graphic and visual arts) and without exception, they love the Macintosh. I bounced this message off a few of them last night and the reactions were momentary shock followed by laughter. >A Mac can be controlled by >a person with one hand having one finger. How many artists would >consider having all but one hand and finger amputated to be crippling? It can be done, yes, thanks to a handy Apple CDEV called "Easy Access" intended for the use of the physically impaired, but this is not the normal way of using the Macintosh. Look at using, say, the line drawing tool in angle-restricted mode. If this was reported to you by CSM artists, it shows to me that their real objections stem from the fact that they haven't bothered to learn the software. If this still isn't clear to you, how many other visual media incorporate a full undo capability, smooth curve fitting, the ability to make corrections without building up layers of white-out, automatic generation of geometric shapes, multiple level canvases, and so forth? Finally, what computers *do* your CSM friends like, if not the Mac? MS/DOS or UNIX for graphics? Barf! -- Tim Maroney, Mac Software Consultant, sun!hoptoad!tim, tim@toad.com Postal: 424 Tehama, SF CA 94103; Phone: (415) 495-2934 "There's a real world out there, with real people. Go out and play there for a while and give the Usenet sandbox a rest. It will lower your stress levels and make the world a happier place for us all." -- Gene Spafford