Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cwjcc!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnewsi!fiesta From: fiesta@cbnewsi.ATT.COM (eric.c.beck) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: SPICE on personal computers Summary: not the way to go for Neural nets Message-ID: <320@cbnewsi.ATT.COM> Date: 22 Jun 89 21:58:10 GMT References: <19546@cup.portal.com> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 22 The adverts for Intusoft's $95 spice have also caught my eye. If I remember correctly, though, the number of simulated nodes in the PC version is severely limited. All but the simplest neural networks you'd want to play with would exceed the node limit of the simulator. Also, the level of simulation provided by SPICE is far more detailed than what is required for interesting neural net simulation. Why waste all those CPU cycles on KCL and KVL? Pick a compiler and do it in software on your PC. I wrote a C program about 4 years ago based on a Hopfield net. It could be taught names which could then be retrieved inspite of mispellings, juxtapositioned letters, etc. As I recall the program was not that long - say a hundred lines or so of Microsoft C, most of it input and output formating. Concerning Intusoft SPICE - anybody use it? Does it come with a library (off the shelf transistors, fets, etc), or must one write their own models? Eric Beck homxb!fiesta AT&T Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ