Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: allen%codon1.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Edward Allen;345 Mulford;x2-9025) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Explosive Ammo Message-ID: <7580@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 20 Jun 89 03:45:58 GMT References: <7558@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 26 Approved: military@att.att.com From: allen%codon1.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Edward Allen;345 Mulford;x2-9025) The person advocating the use of the most effective but illegal by convention weapons such as explosive bullets forgets a factor when he asks rhetorically whether small unit commanders would want to have them. If the enemy takes the legality issue seriously and captures said officer or his men, it will go hard on them. I remember accounts of WWI incidents in which men armed with saw toothed bayonets, considered to be an unethical weapon, were stuck with their own bayonets as punishment by the enemy after capture. It depends on who you are fighting, but if "honorable combat" is part of their ethical system, as it has been for western powers for some time now, its to your advantage to live and fight within the rules if you want hope of living through capture to reach the prison camp and eventual repatriation. If pure combat effectiveness were the only rule as that previous poster suggested, we'd have seen the use of nukes since Nagasaki. There are other considerations, tactical, strategic, and moral. As with the debate on fighter armaments and tactics, the technology must be viewed within the larger framework to see how and why it's used or not used. Ed "my, that started to sound like a soapbox speech" Allen (allen@enzyme.berkeley.edu)