Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!ames!elroy!ucla-cs!uci-ics!tittle From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Definition of feminism, can a man be a feminist? Summary: Maybe, but I wouldn't argue it (with list of some books) Keywords: note Message-ID: <17822@paris.ics.uci.edu> Date: 14 Jun 89 20:48:06 GMT Sender: news@paris.ics.uci.edu Reply-To: lunde@nuacc.acns.nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks Lines: 52 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu [What follows was posted twice to soc.feminism but seems to have gotten lost between acns.nwu.edu and the newsgroup and/or moderators. I'm not sure how timely this is by now, though I'm saying something a bit different. --Albert Lunde] I would like to think of myself as a feminist. I agree this is not beyond question, and do not insist that anyone agree with me. If the politics and ideology of feminism derive from and are defined by women's experience, men are marginal to it. How I, as a man, relate to feminism, seems to me to me to be easier to resolve with Tao than theory. Confrontation seems at cross purposes with supporting feminism. Women's self-definition is an important principle. I would rather risk being uncomfortable than have feminism watered down. I would suggest to C. Williamson that he might want to ask the permission of the organizer when registering for woman's studies courses, to avoid cases where her preference is that the class be women-only. Beyond this, try to be tactful and try not make an issue of oneself. I still have mixed emotions when I approach these topics. I feel I'm on "both sides" when I talk about it and I'm also of two minds on how much to say. I would like to suggest some reading which bears on the relation of sympathetic men to feminism, which has moved me in important ways: - Every Mother's Son by Judith Arcana (1st ed. Doubleday/ 2nd ed. Seal Press) - The Women Say, The Men Say by Evelyn Shapiro & Barry Shapiro (Dell Pub.) - The Anatomy of Freedom by Robin Morgan (Doubleday) - For Men Against Sexism: a book of readings ed. Jon Snodgrass (Distributed by The Crossing Press) - "A Creed for For Free Women * ... (* and such men as feel happy with it)" from the book: Sapphic Songs: eighteen to eighty by Else Gidlow (Distributed by Naiad Press) - "I am a Dangerous Woman" by Joan Cavanagh from the book Reweaving the Web of Life ed. Pam McAllister (New Society Publishers) Finding a bookstore that sells them is half the fun :-) ... [Does anyone want to post a review of any of these books?! --Cindy] Albert Lunde lunde@nuacc.acns.nwu.edu "We are all part of one another" - Barbara Demming lunde@nuacc.bitnet