Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!ames!elroy!ucla-cs!uci-ics!tittle From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Can a man be a feminist? Summary: To see is to know, to do is to understand Message-ID: <17823@paris.ics.uci.edu> Date: 14 Jun 89 21:09:47 GMT Sender: news@paris.ics.uci.edu Reply-To: gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) Organization: Duke University CS Dept.; Durham, NC Lines: 51 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu About ten years ago Ellison wrote an article which is related to the subject of this debate. My position is similar to his, and he is a much better writer. Introduction to Lonely Women Are the Vessels of Time by Harlan Ellison "Had this really weird, essentially ugly evening at the University of Rochester (New York) last April. Several persons of a genetically female persuasion had maneuvered the otherwise sane and exemplary U. of Rochester Women's Caucus into an attempt to ban the film version of my story "A Boy and His Dog" on the grounds that it was violently sexist and anti-female. I'm not going to go into all that. It was a night that only reaffirmed my conviction that the mass of humans, male and female alike, are what the late Bruce Elliott called "genetic garbage." Ugly statement. I won't argue the point. All I wish is that *you* had been there. Kee-rist! Madness. It's mentioned here solely to keynote the point that for a writer in Our Time, trying to write as honestly and evenhandedly as he or she can, it is impossible to write *anything* that doesn't infuriate one pressure group or another, large or small. Even if one cares passionately and believes in the validity of some Movement, one can be, at best, only a fellow traveler; and that smacks of sycophancy. So either the writer avoids writing any damned thing that might affront, or gets past a kind of universal knee-jerk Liberalism and cops to the truth that we are all pretty much alike, male and female, black and white, young and old, ugly and lovely. Pretty much alike in our ownership of human emotions, needs, drives, failings. And try to write about the human heart in conflict with itself as truly as one can. And if that means stomping on the feet of men or women belonging to this ethnic or cultural group or that... well, I've never thought for a moment I was going to die with the reputation of being one of America's most beloved figures. It ain't in the cards. I'd rather be honest than chic, anyway. (He said, looking over his shoulder)." * "The arts serve purposes beyond themselves; the purposes of what they dramatize or represent at that remove from the flux which gives them order and meaning and value; and to deny these purposes is like asserting that the function of a handsaw is to be hang above a bench and that to cut wood is to belittle it." ---- Richard P. Blackmur, A critic's Job of Work