Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!hp4nl!philapd!ssp1!roelof From: roelof@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (R. Vuurboom) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: MIPS/MFLOPS ratio Summary: Balance Message-ID: <140@ssp1.idca.tds.philips.nl> Date: 29 Jun 89 12:06:25 GMT References: <596@megatek.UUCP> Organization: Philips Telecommunication and Data Systems, The Netherlands Lines: 41 In article <596@megatek.UUCP> mark@megatek.UUCP () writes: >performance. A little paper design for a SPARC system using the latest >Cypress IU and FPC/FPU gets me a MIPS/MFLOPS ratio of about 10. > >This seems a little out of whack... it seems that older scientific >processors had ratios in the 3-4 range. > >Looking a published info on MIPS, and some hand waving gets me a ratio >of about 5-6, better but still slow (an aside: what are the MIPS guys >doing to get the speeds up higher than the SPARC guys? compilers?) > >Why is the floating point lagging integer performance so much? What is >being done to get this back in balance? > Question is: Is a 3-4 MIPS/MFLOPS balanced? To avoid the eternal "it depends on the application" suppose we agree that for example the SPEC Benchmark suite is a representative model of our application. Can anybody give some sort of (simplistic, I know) rules-of-thumb about MIPS/MFLOPS real estate ratios as a function of performance. Something like: increasing MFLOPS performance x% would mean y% more real estate needed, the corresponding real estate reduction for the IU (and rest) would probably mean z% less MIPS. By varying the MIPS/MFLOPS ratios (given a fixed amount of silicon) a ratio best tuned to the Suite could be calculated using the agreed upon weightings etc. Since we (one sidedly) agreed that the suite was a representative model of our application world this could be a quasi-objective determination of what is a "balanced" processor. Flames anyone? Disclaimer: Opinions are really just onions and pi. -- Roelof Vuurboom SSP/V3 Philips TDS Apeldoorn, The Netherlands +31 55 432226 domain: roelof@idca.tds.philips.nl uucp: ...!mcvax!philapd!roelof