Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!sco!seanf From: seanf@sco.COM (Sean Fagan) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: What is a Mainframe? Keywords: micro mini main Message-ID: <2965@scolex.sco.COM> Date: 1 Jul 89 22:25:25 GMT References: <125@ssp1.idca.tds.philips.nl> <20752@winchester.mips.COM> <4400@ficc.uu.net> <187@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU> <355@torsqnt.UUCP> <156@van-bc.UUCP> <518@unicads.UUCP> Reply-To: seanf@scolex.UUCP (Sean Fagan) Distribution: comp.arch Organization: The Committee to Elect Seymour and Dennis God Lines: 25 In article <518@unicads.UUCP> les@unicads.UUCP (Les Milash) writes: >In article <156@van-bc.UUCP> sl@.UUCP (Stuart Lynne) writes: >>If it's design/architecture dates to the late eighties its a ....... > _R_I_S_C_ Really? Wow. I'm sure Seymour Cray, who designed, in the early-to-mid '60's, a machine with 70-odd instructions, and most of the features associated with "RISC," would be very surprised to hear that. RISC, as a concept, is decades old, now. Cray did the Cybers that way to make them run quickly; at about the same time, IBM had a research project going on to see if it could, indeed, run more quickly. I'm fairly certain Seymour did *his* because he hardwires his machines (no micro-code on *real* computers 8-)), while IBM was just seeing how true and useful the 80-20 rule was. (I don't *think* either party was influenced by the other, but, since I haven't had a chance to talk to Seymour [aka God 8-)], I can't be certain.) Then, of course, Universities got a hold of the whole idea, and it took off. The rest is, as they say, history. -- Sean Eric Fagan | "Uhm, excuse me..." seanf@sco.UUCP | -- James T. Kirk (William Shatner), ST V: TFF (408) 458-1422 | Any opinions expressed are my own, not my employers'.