Xref: utzoo comp.os.misc:953 comp.std.misc:132 comp.arch:10505 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!ames!ncar!boulder!bobk From: bobk@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Bob Kinne) Newsgroups: comp.os.misc,comp.std.misc,comp.arch Subject: Re: TRON Keywords: TRON operating systems Message-ID: <9870@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: 5 Jul 89 20:45:06 GMT References: <112@hitachi.uucp> Sender: news@boulder.Colorado.EDU Reply-To: bobk@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Bob Kinne) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 37 In article <112@hitachi.uucp> billg@hitachi.uucp (Bill Gundry) writes: > > >As one of the few Westerners invlolved in the TRON project I think >the simple answer is that the TRON Association has done >nothing to publicize or seek the involvement of U.S. companies. > >So, are we are missing something by not learning Japanese? The TRON The sense I have always had of TRON is that it is a consortium of Japanese industries with strong government support and with an overall goal of leap-frogging the Japanese computer industry to a leading position in the world. In this context, it would hardly be expected that they would invite U. S. companies to join and participate. Learning Japanese might provide some peripheral improvement in tracking the work, but TRON, much like IBM, is very willing to publish and talk about overall goals and architecture, but is much less willing to share information about specific advances and implementations. This knowledge is regarded as being in the category of innovation and trade secrets, and is not likely to ever be presented openly. The Japanese computing and communication industries have always shown less enthusiasm about open architectures and international standards than has been seen in North America and Europe. TRON seems to me to be a well-planned and financed, long-term effort to establish new generations of equipment and software that will make Japan the world leader (and standard setter) in many areas of computing and information processing and transfer. If anyone thinks this effort has a low probability of success, I suggest that person look at the automobile, steel, video, consumer electronics, and semiconductor industries, to name a few. At one time or another, the U. S. was the unquestioned world leader in each of these. Bob Kinne Optoelectronics Computing Center UCB, Campus Box 525 VOICE (303) 492-3330 Boulder, CO 80309 INTERNET bobk@boulder.Colorado.EDU