Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!ukc!mucs!mario From: mario@r3.cs.man.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: Smalltalk(s) for the PC--a quick review Message-ID: <6402@ux.cs.man.ac.uk> Date: 26 Jun 89 17:42:43 GMT Sender: news@ux.cs.man.ac.uk Organization: University of Manchester, UK Lines: 33 In <7030002@hpcupt1.HP.COM> Doug Claar writes: >Smalltalk/V, is (as far as I know) the only reasonably priced Smalltalk >for the PC. >... > ...Smalltalk/80, which may or may not run on the PC, but is > certainly not "reasonably cheap." (It is the 'real' smalltalk). Maybe true a while ago, but not any more... If you have a 386 PC, you can run Smalltalk-80 VI2.4 on it. I have used this on a Compaq Deskpro 386/20, and it's *wonderful*. Price: approx $150. Speed: 170 on the usual scale (where Dorado=100). This means it's faster than Smalltalk-80 on a Sun 3/60. Reliability: excellent. It has a generation-based garbage collector which is imperceptible, and reclaims cycles. Most importantly, it's The Real Thing. Browsers with categories and message protocols, correction, mutation of instance variables when you modify a class definition, multi-processing, and, much, much more.. The only drawback of this as against a Sun is that the screen is small...and I even have that sorted (with a goodie that lets the real screen pan over a large "virtual" screen.) More information can be obtained from info@parcplace.com. "(FileStream fileNamed: 'StandardDisclaimer.st') fileIn." Mario Wolczko ______ Dept. of Computer Science Internet: mario@ux.cs.man.ac.uk /~ ~\ The University USENET: mcvax!ukc!man.cs.ux!mario ( __ ) Manchester M13 9PL JANET: mario@uk.ac.man.cs.ux `-': :`-' U.K. Tel: +44-61-275 6146 (FAX: 6280) ____; ;_____________the mushroom project____________________________________