Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cica!gatech!hubcap!landman From: landman@Sun.COM (Howard A. Landman) Newsgroups: comp.parallel Subject: Re: Scaled-down CM ? Message-ID: <5874@hubcap.clemson.edu> Date: 29 Jun 89 12:14:13 GMT Sender: fpst@hubcap.clemson.edu Lines: 32 Approved: parallel@hubcap.clemson.edu In article <5847@hubcap.clemson.edu> eho@bogey.princeton.edu (Eric Y.W. Ho) writes: >Does anyone at TMC considered building a somewhat scaled-down CM box -- like >putting just several hundreds or just a few thousands cells on say a big wafer >or several large chips so that it can be hooked to one's desktop (either as a >separate box next to the desktop or actually inside the desktop -- that would >be really nice) so that people with a limited budget that can take advantage >of this architecture (& don't want to learn another entirely new enviornment >-- it is nice that CM can adapt easily to the host's environment) but not >necessary need so many cells can go out and get one of this box (either for >personal use or to be shared by a small group of half a dozen or so people) >and start doing some useful things with it. Whew! That's an awfully long sentence! Anyway, I brought this same issue up a few months ago. Here's one problem: the cost of a CM can be divided into 4 parts. (1) Host (2) Host interface board (3) Sequencer (4) "Cells", to use Eric's term. The host has to be sufficiently powerful to not be the bottleneck; a small Sun 4 or a VAX 8600 might be O.K. Both CPU power and I/O capacity are important. Either way you're talking at least $10K to $X00K. The interface board and sequencer are the biggest cost problem - they cost the same for one processor or 16K. Let's say another $10K to $100K. Finally there are the processor cells. A good number might be 256. But each CM processor is fairly weak (maybe 0.1 MIP) by itself - it's only in large numbers that they start becoming powerful. A 256 processor CM would have a peak, maximally utilized power of about 25 MIPS. Not very exciting for a couple hundred $K. If you really want to play with what it's like to program a CM, it would probably be better to just write StarLisp and Fortran 8X and C* compilers for conventional machines, and buy a fast deskside to run them on. Howard A. Landman landman@sun.com