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From: svc@well.UUCP (Leonard Rosenthol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Communications Manager
Summary: Here are some answers...
Message-ID: <12411@well.UUCP>
Date: 26 Jun 89 16:06:12 GMT
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In article <7764@hoptoad.uucp>, tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) writes:
> I have some questions about the Communications Toolbox --
> 
> (1)  What is the connection between statements about licensing and
> statements that this will become a standard part of the OS with System
> 7.0?  Do all products using it have to license it (if they provide a
> copy) or will it be subsumed under distributing the Apple system
> software for licensing purposes?
> 
	Accordign to what we have been told by Apple, any software product 
which wishes to use the CTB will have to license it SEPARATELY for inclusion
on their shipping disks.  This will probably change when system 7.0 ships.

> (2)  The distributed diagrams show only serial port support built in.
> I am surprised that support for network terminals (using TCP and ADSP)
> and network file transfer (using FTP and perhaps client-side AFP)
> weren't slated for the first release.  Will these be added later or is
> this being left for third parties?  If only serial connections modules
> are being provided, how sure can we be that it is general enough for
> LAN use?
> 
	You are correct that Apple's initial offering will include only serial
type connection tools (serial and modem).  The reasons why they are only
offering these are two fold - 1) lack of time/resources to do an ADSP or TCP
tool and 2) give the 3rd parities something to do.  They have internal testing
tools for both ADSP and TCP (using MacTCP) so I think you can say it does work
(though I can not comment of how well..)

> (3)  Will it be compatible with System 6.0.3 as well as 7.0?
> 
	Since it will ship BEFORE system 7.0, it will be compatable.

> (4)  What responsibilities of terminal emulation are left to the
> application (or other calling) software?  For instance, do the built-in
> terminal emulators implement scrollback and connection-time saving to
> disk, or are there callback hooks to allow client software to handle
> these features?
> 
	The terminal tools are ONLY responsible for display of the terminal
window.  For a VT100, for example, this would be the last 24X80 chars that came
in (and I do not know if it will support other heights and widths :-).  The
calling application is responsible for implementing scrollback, capture to
disk or logging printer, etc.  Since the calling appl gets the data BEFORE
passing it off to the tools as well as AFTER, you can use the data as you see
fit.
	This does pose some questions as to how do you select text across the
terminal window AND the scrollback, but I am assured that Apple is working on
trying to solve such problems.

> Thanks for any help you can give....
	No problem Tim...

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