Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!iconsys!caeco!i-core!geo-works!bryan From: bryan@geo-works.UUCP (Bryan Ford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Request for testers for Color X11 for Amiga Message-ID: <0945.AA0945@geo-works> Date: 17 Jun 89 12:33:39 GMT References: <788@boing.UUCP> <566@bnr-fos.UUCP> <1148@jimi.cs.unlv.edu> <795@boing.UUCP> Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga Lines: 37 In article <795@boing.UUCP>, dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck) writes: >In article <1148@jimi.cs.unlv.edu> ray@jimi.cs.unlv.edu (Ray Tripamer) writes: >> This will not be >>the case for a lot of Amiga users. I don't think it is the intention of >>Mr. Luck to have X on the Amiga replace the Workbench, but rather to supply >>an well-known, useful product for those people who use Amigas on a network. > >The X Window System is also a standard execution and programming >environment. I can't count how many programs are currently being written >nor how many programmers or quantity of R&D being spent on developing >X programs. With X11 on the Amiga these programs will be much easier >to port to the Amiga since the majority of the work is graphics and we >will have the exact same libraries and toolkits available on the Amiga >that Sun/VAX/etc. programmers will be using. Quite true. However, at 400 bucks a copy, don't expect it to become the standard window environment for the Amiga. Don't get me wrong, I know it's a very good price for 'big wigs' who want to connect an Amiga to everything else. But not very many 'normal' people are going to pay that much just for a standard window environment, and if nobody has it, not many programmers are going to program for it. What you will need to do is release a simple, 'bones' library, which just acts as a local interface to Intuition. Only include the functions that most X-Windows programs use. Ideally this would be public domain (if you want to make it a standard), but since I'm not very familiar with X-Windows and I don't know what this would take, I won't make a big stink out of it. Another option might be to create a linkable library that developers can link into programs that use X-Windows. This library would be very much like the one described above, but it would be contained inside each X-Windows program, as an interface to Intuition. That way you could sell it for a lot more (since it's being used directly only by developers). Unfortunately, these programs might have a hard time running under your 'regular', networked X-Windows program. Again I don't know how feasible this would be, but it's an idea to think about. Bryan