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From: rminnich@super.ORG (Ronald G Minnich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Request for testers for Color X11 for Amiga
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Date: 26 Jun 89 16:16:31 GMT
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In article <818@boing.UUCP> dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck) writes:
>In article <176@gcrc.aecom.YU.EDU> mark@gcrc.aecom.YU.EDU (mark lyakhovsky) writes:
>> To all of this i can simply the price of the new Sun 3/80 is list $5400
>Humm,  4.1?  Well you better add another 4m of memory to the 3/80
>Woops, I need a fileserver some where, or atleast
>a 150mbyte scsi disk. Not needed for the Amiga. At most a local 20meg
>disk is just fine, but you can run on a single floppy system with a
>single boot up floppy containing server and a few X11 files to get going.
>>			For Total of $3400
You got it dale, most of the prices flowing around this list about
workstations are pure crap.
   Now i know why industry goes crazy sometimes when they talk to 
universities.
   First off, to that $5400 workstation add a 'file server tax' of, say,
$1700 just for its share of the file server resources. That's not even
coming close to amortizing the cost of the file server, it is just 
an almost fair number. 
   There aren't many people who buy a 3/80 with enet and put it in
a room ... that connector has to go somewhere, doesn't it? When all 
is said and done, count on more like $8-9K for that 3/80.
And you sure better get lots of memory ... 4.x is fun, but
needs a minimum of 8 Mb memory.
   At Usenix I saw this wonderful IBM PS2/70, 20 Mhz. 386, running
X windows. God, it was AWFUL. You had to turn auto-raise off because
in some cases it took over 75 seconds to redraw its very small mono
screen. Cost? STARTED at $8K, and went up to $15K. ack. Get me an Amiga.
ron