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From: abbadon@nuchat.UUCP (David Neal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Request for testers for Color X11 for Amiga
Summary: Flaming about expensive Suns
Message-ID: <11977@nuchat.UUCP>
Date: 30 Jun 89 19:58:34 GMT
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Reply-To: abbadon@nuchat.UUCP (David Neal)
Organization: Houston Public Access
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In article <33864@kilowatt.uucp> raz@sun.UUCP (Steve -Raz- Berry) writes:
>In article <818@boing.UUCP> dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck) writes:
>>In article <176@gcrc.aecom.YU.EDU> mark@gcrc.aecom.YU.EDU (mark lyakhovsky) writes:
>>>
>>> To all of this i can simply the price of the new Sun 3/80 is list $5400
>>> With some major discounts from NSF -(National Science Foundation) =35%
>>> you can bye a real workstationwith a monochrome monitor with resolution of 
>>> more than 800x800 pluss the cpu which is 68030 with math processer plus 
>>> Ether-Net connecter build in, a real operating system Unix 4.3 pluss 
>>> next release of the Op. Sys will be 4.1 (Open Look) which is X11
>

Yeah, right, pal.


Let's take a quick look, shall we?

Sun 3/80M 8Mbyte Desktp Workstation. 19-inch Monochrome
Monitor. 2x104-Mbyte SCSI Internal Disk                         $11,995

104-MByte SCSI Desktop Disk Pack.                                $2,200

150-MByte SCSU 1/4 inch tape Desktop Backup Pack.                $1,600

3/80 Usa Country Kit. (Keyboard/Mouse/Pad/Local power cords)       $600

Sun System Software Right to Use License 4-user maximum            $600

SunOS Standard Software and manuals for Sun-3 68030 based
systems. 1/4 inch cartrige                                         $600

Full System Software Documentation for Sun-3.                      $450
                                                                -------
                                                                $18,045

These are numbers quoted from a fax from the local Sun office.
My prices, no NSF discounts

Why so much local disk space you ask?

Ok, let's go see..

sun1% pwd
/home/staff/dn
sun1%
sun1% du -s X11 (BSD du gives usages in K)
116606  X11
sun1%

Gosh, 113 megabytes JUST for X11, oh wait.. no we
still have to install it! Ok, copy all the crap 
into your /usr hierarchy. Fonts, executables, 
man pages, libraries and you have used half again as 
much in disk space. What? You didn't anticipate that 
much in your /usr partition? Gee, glad you got that 
extra tape drive so you can backup and reformat all your disks...

Oh, COLOR? My oh my, that's extra too.... heh heh heh.


Ok, lets say we kill X's source and go diskless, that puts us
around $12000 monochrome, right? Give me a fucking break.
Where's my amiga?


David Neal
abbadon@nuchat