Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!motcsd!hpda!hpcuhb!hp-ses!hpdml93!stephen From: stephen@hpdml93.HP.COM (Stephen Holmstead) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: 9600 bps Modems Message-ID: <380027@hpdml93.HP.COM> Date: 5 Jul 89 15:18:01 GMT References: <11167@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID Lines: 44 Sorry to eat up bandwidth, but I just had to jump in and make a correction. People seem to always make a mistake when talking about modem speeds. For example, > I understand the 'standard' for 9600 baud is between the U.S. Robotics ^^^^ It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a 9600 _baud_ modem work on the telephone lines. However, a 9600 _bps_ modem IS possible. I know the distinction is minor, but since people continue to make the mistake, I want to clarify. _bps_ refers to "bits per second" in the transfer rate. This is how just about ALL communication links are rated. _baud_ refers to "symbols per second" in the transfer rate. In older modems (ie. 1200bps, 300bps, etc), each symbol comprised one bit worth of data (one frequency was used to represent a ZERO and another was used to represent a ONE). Thus, 1200 baud equals 1200 bps. However, when people began increase the transfer rate, it only worked when there was a direct connection. However, when trying to use the telephone system, the maximum transfer rate is about 2400 baud. This is due to the multiplexing done on the telephone lines. It sounds like when you are talking on the phone that you have a continuous connection, but in reality, you are being "time-sliced" with other conversations. So with higher transfer rates, symbols would be lost in the "switches". Therefore, people began sending more bits per symbol. People began using multi-phase and multi-amplitude frequency codes to send 2, 4, or 8 bits per symbol. Thus, they could get 2400 bps, 4800 bps, and 9600 bps while only sending at 1200 or 2400 baud. So, when you buy a 9600 bps modem, it will really only transmit at 1200 or 2400 baud (depending on the implementation). Thus, it is a 9600 _bps_ modem and NOT a 9600 _baud_ modem! Again, sorry to eat bandwidth, but I hope that everyone learned something. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Stephen Holmstead ...!hplabs!hpdmlge!stephen // Hewlett Packard Disk Memory Division \X/ Amiga Forever! (208) 323-2840 I remind you that humans are only a tiny minority in this galaxy. -- Spock, "The Apple," stardate 3715.6.