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From: raveling@venera.isi.edu (Paul Raveling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.apollo,comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Academic workstations
Message-ID: <8767@venera.isi.edu>
Date: 27 Jun 89 01:32:35 GMT
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In article <2467@internal.Apple.COM> fair@apple.com (Erik E. Fair) writes:
>In article <8732@venera.isi.edu> raveling@venera.isi.edu (Paul Raveling) 
>writes:
>>     HP & DEC are probably close, but we have mainly Sun & HP
>>         workstations; I don't have much DEC experience to confirm
>>         this suspicion.  Sun's software (e.g., C compiler) is often
>>         visibly less refined and more trouble-prone than HP's.
>
>Just try getting Ultrix source from DEC. When you do, you'll find out that 
>it is "for reference purposes only."

	We haven't managed to get HP-UX source from HP either.
	Having viewed things like this from the vendor side as well
	as from the user side, I can't blame them much for not wanting
	wanting to maintain a source product.

	Instead I just mutter sometimes that a good operating system 
	shouldn't leave users with a need for its source.  Unfortunately
	that kind of need seems to keep arising on all the variants of UNIX
	I've dealt with.


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Paul Raveling
Raveling@isi.edu