Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL!WMartin From: WMartin@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (William G. Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc Subject: Re: The "Macintoy" chant is getting tired Message-ID: <12505524010.13.WMARTIN@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL> Date: 27 Jun 89 18:55:04 GMT References: <392@arc.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 18 There is an interesting book out on this period in Xerox' history, which I recommend to those of you who are interested in the topic. The title is FUMBLING THE FUTURE. Unfortunately, I can't recall the author's name but the title should let you find it in a library catalog. It discusses the development of the Alto/Star product line and the milieu in which that grew, including Englebart and the NLS & mouse development, etc. I was one of a team of Army civilian and military software people who went out to SRI back then and learned NLS and how to program in the CML/L10 language group to support NLS-based systems development. We had a nice little office-automation system going in the NLS environment for a while, called "ELITE" (Executive-Level Interactive Terminal Environment). We stayed with NLS while it moved from SRI to Tymshare, but tthen, later on, our HQ terminated the project and directed it be redeveloped under UNIX, the rationale being that we were too single-vendor-dependent under NLS, and also the UNIX route was cheaper. Regards, Will Martin -------