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From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Why does "file" change the creation time on some Unix systems?
Message-ID: <1878@auspex.auspex.com>
Date: 5 Jul 89 20:19:04 GMT
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Reply-To: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara
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 >>It doesn't refer to *ANY* "creation" time, it refers to the inode change
 >>time.  If your manual says it refers to the creation time, either your
 >>manual is wrong or you're running a pretty bizarre version of UNIX.
 >
 >     Well, then, Guy, I guess you can call 4.3 BSD+NFS "a pretty bizarre
 >version of UNIX"; to wit, I quote part of the standard ls(1) man page:
 >
 >	-c   Use time of file creation for sorting or printing.

Uhh, please note that I said that "either your manual is wrong or you're
running a pretty bizarre version of UNIX"; the 4.3 BSD manual is simply
wrong - it's *NOT* the bloody creation time, period, end of discussion -
so unless as part of folding in NFS the folders added a creation time
(*and* screwed up "ls" to have the "-c" flag print the creation time),
their manual is wrong as well.