Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!bionet!apple!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!ucbvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rpi!pawl!shadow From: shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Subject: Re: bug (?) in gnus-inews-message-id Message-ID: Date: 6 Jul 89 02:03:43 GMT References: Sender: usenet@rpi.edu Distribution: gnu Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Lines: 40 In-reply-to: wisner@mica.Berkeley.EDU's message of 2 Jul 89 19:19:19 GMT In article wisner@mica.Berkeley.EDU (Bill Wisner) writes: >The way GNUS generates message-IDs is correct. Pure opinion. On which I disagree. >Message-IDs must be absolutely unique. When GNUS uses your true local >hostname, this can be easily arranged. It is more problematic when >several machines all use the same hostname in message-IDs. Why?? Do you find it likely that you will post two separate messages from machines using the same hostname in the same second?? Get real. >It is also rather nice to be able to see from which machine someone >is actually posting. (My address is wisner@mica.berkeley.edu, but I >never actually log in to mica.) It uses the same domain as it uses for the "From:" line. If you posted as if from a different domain, (as I do) then the generated hostname is the Message-ID is WRONG. I finally added a hook to delete the hostname from the domain in the Message-ID, in gnus-Inews-hook. (or whatever it is) It should NOT use the host and domain for the Message-ID if it uses only the domain for the From: line. That is inconsistent behavior. And wrong. (IMO) >You said that "in order not to confuse users" the IDs generated by >GNUS should use gnus-use-generic-from. The message-ID field is not >intended for users to use; it is intended for software. In GNUS, a >user never even sees message-IDs unless he specifically asks for >them. So why does it bother you? Users OFTEN see Message-ID's, particularly in attribution lines when someone is quoted. And yes, poorly generated ID's (and long ones) get to be quite annoying. Deven -- shadow@[128.113.10.2] Deven T. Corzine (518) 272-5847 shadow@[128.113.10.201] 2346 15th St. Pi-Rho America deven@rpitsmts.bitnet Troy, NY 12180-2306 <> "Simple things should be simple and complex things should be possible." - A.K.