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From: holland@m2.csc.ti.com (Fred Hollander)
Newsgroups: gnu.gcc
Subject: Re: A strange sort of fanaticism.
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Date: 26 Jun 89 21:46:39 GMT
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In article <8906190141.AA00386@sugar-bombs.ai.mit.edu> rms@AI.MIT.EDU writes:
>
>	    - You proposed violence in the form of destruction of Macintoshes
>	    (give a Mac the axe)
>
>Are you saying that the owner of a computer has no right to take
>an axe to it?  What is this, confiscation of private property?

Not at all.  I'm simply saying that a person who advocates the destruction
of kilo-$ computers to prove his dissatisfaction with the company that
created them is a fanatic.

>Your use of the word "violence" is intended to call up people's
>associations with "violence against other people or their property",
>but these are inappropriate in the case of one's own property.

How do you know what I intended?  I quoted you but, you are putting words
in my mouth.  My intentions are stated in my response above.

>Whether this would be a useful piece of public relations is another
>matter.  Some people say it is not.  This is an interesting subject to
>discuss, but I don't think info-gcc should bear the brunt of the
>discussion.

What is interesting is that you instigated this discussion AND you
have contributed more to this discussion than any other single person.
If you really think it is inappropriate, why don't you set an example
for the rest of us and discontinue your postings on the subject.

>	    - You requested that all those who disagreed with you should write
>	    to you.  "Even though I know you're wrong, I just want to know how
>	    many of you there are."
>
>Is curiosity an indication of fanaticism?

You are obviously not interested in other people's opinions - that would be
curiousity.  You want a toll on the number of people with "wrong" opinions -
that's fanaticism.

>You suggest that I have lost credibility.  Readers of this list may be
>interested in deciding whether to consider me credible; they might
>even be interested in your opinion on the question; but it is unlikely
>they are interested in what you think they think.  Please spare us
>all.

They may also be uninterested in your opinion of what you think they
are interested in.  I was simply stating my opinion which was based on
observing other postings.  Some were quite explicit and others
indicated this implicitly.

-Fred

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