Path: utzoo!attcan!ncrcan!moegate!soley From: soley@moegate.UUCP (Norman S. Soley) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: FEED FOR GERMANY Message-ID: <425@moegate.UUCP> Date: 26 Jun 89 18:01:54 GMT References: <786@redsox.bsw.com> <114@utower.UUCP> <3631@ddsw1.MCS.COM> <767@ctisbv.UUCP> Reply-To: soley@moegate.UUCP (Norman S. Soley) Organization: Ontario Ministry of the Environment Lines: 28 In article <767@ctisbv.UUCP> pim@ctisbv.UUCP (Pim Zandbergen) writes: >In article <3631@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: > >I guess that in this case there is another monopolistic organisation >that will prevent this. The German Bundespost does not allow Germans >to use their own modems. You can only rent their 1200 baud modems; >connecting a Telebit to a German phone line ist verboten! > >Correct me if I am wrong. Telebit says in their ad's that they are PTT certified for European Countries, what this means for west Germany I don't know. I'm also told that the technology used by the Bundespost to check for modems can be gotten around fairly easily, I've heard two stories, leave a short silence between picking up and sending carrier or only use the modem in answer mode, they can only check outgoing calls. I also don't know if doing either of these things is illegal. I remember back in the old days here it was against the rules to put a modem on a line without getting permission from Bell, if you got caught Bell would refuse to perform service on the line until the unit was removed, then charge you a whopping fee for their trouble, most people, including a lot of Bell people though it was actually illegal. -- Norman Soley - The Communications Guy - Ontario Ministry of the Environment soley@moegate.UUCP or if you roll your own: uunet!attcan!ncrcan!moegate!soley The Minister speaks for the Ministry, I speak for myself. Got that! Good. Stay smart, go cool, be happy, it's the only way to get what you want