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From: pim@ctisbv.UUCP (Pim Zandbergen)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: makin' profit at unido (Was : Re: An apology...)
Message-ID: <774@ctisbv.UUCP>
Date: 29 Jun 89 17:35:52 GMT
References: <786@redsox.bsw.com> <263@icdi10.UUCP> <1444@laura.UUCP> <3650@ddsw1.MCS.COM>
Reply-To: pim@ctisbv.UUCP (Pim Zandbergen)
Organization: CTI Software BV, The Hague, The Netherlands
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In article <3650@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes:
>
>My offer holds -- any European site which wants to get news from us can do
>so for the price of the phone call across the Big Pond.  Send email for
>connection information.  If enough people want to poll I'll even go find a way
>to get a domain set up for it.
>
Maybe it should be made clear that not all European backbones charge
the way unido does. For instance, the rates in the Netherlands are
much more fair.

In order to get a USENET feed, the first step is to become a member
of the NLUUG, the Dutch Unix Users Group. For a commercial site,
the contribution fee is Dfl 600 ($263.15), universities pay Dfl 200 ($87.71)
and individuals pay pay Dfl 100 ($43.85) PER YEAR.

Further costs
USENET connection:		Dfl.  30	$  13.15	/ month
Full or partial news feed:	Dfl.  80	$  35.08	/ month
Mail within the Netherlands:	Dfl.  10	$   4.38	/ Megabyte
Mail within Europe:		Dfl. 200	$  87.71	/ Megabyte
Mail outside Europe:		Dfl. 250	$ 109.64	/ Megabyte
Connect time costs:		Dfl.   2.50	$   0.21	/ hour

Every day, you have one hour of free connect time. With a Trailblazer
(officially approved by the Dutch PTT!) this is enough to get a full
newsfeed, so connect time costs are for slow modems only.

For a commercial site this adds up to Dfl. 160 ($ 70.17) per month.
This is a lot less then the price our German friends have to pay.

But the again, the costs are lower too: hp4nl, the Dutch backbone,
and mcvax, the European backbone are tied up in a LAN, so
this is a practically free link. Also, the NLUUG has received
several donations. The system known as hp4nl has been donated
by Hewlett Packard, the Trailblazers have been donated by 
Koning en Hartman, and the mail and routing software was
donated by ACE Associated Computer Experts.
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