Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!inria!axis!coms!axis!philip
From: philip@axis.fr (Philip Peake)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: availability of EUUG newsletter (was Re: Lapsed subscriptions)
Message-ID: <581@axis.fr>
Date: 5 Jul 89 08:26:16 GMT
References: <786@redsox.bsw.com> <1433@laura.UUCP> <16720@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> <2569@molokai.sw.mcc.com>
Organization: Axis International, Paris
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In article <2569@molokai.sw.mcc.com>, werner@molokai.sw.mcc.com (Werner Uhrig) writes:
> 
> > Under a reciprocal agreement with USENIX, members of one organisation can
> > benefit many of the services of the other.
> > For example, anyone interested in following developments in europe,
> > who is a USENIX member, can subscribe to the EUUG Newsletter for what
> > amounts to the cost of production and postage.
> > Similar arangements exist for entry to EUUG conferences etc.
> 
> 	in this day and age such an item should be distributed electronically
> 	and available to everyone that is able to read news.  or do you
> 	copyright that thing and distribute it only to paying members
> 	also?  from all the recent negative publicity, maybe you should
> 	reconsider posting this newsletter for a couple of months now (and
> 	some back-issues) so that we can read up on your activities and
> 	positions and check if you really are the "good guys in the white
> 	hat" ...

It is the EUUG NEWSLETTER - ie really intended for EUUG members - much of it
would not be of interest to the majority of news readers - yes it IS copyright.
Why don't you ask the IEEE, USENIX et. al. to put their newsletters/journals
on the net too ?

It also contains photographs and diagrams - not easy to put on the net.

What negative publicity ? you mean about the intolerant, short sighted
attitudes of a few American people ?
 
> 	I thought I was Anke's list of people to get this thing and even
> 	offered to make it available in the US for anonymous FTP ...
> 	and I gladly to repeat that offer again....

No. As with the network, it costs money to produce - it is done proffesionaly
(I know you are not going to like that word ..) and is for the benefit of
EUUG members - not the whole world.

There was some talk of making the postscript available, but this would be on
the same conditions as the Newsletter itself - ie copyrighted, but with
permission to copy for non-profit use with suitable acknowlegemets to the
author(s) and the EUUG.

Unfortunately, some of the work is still done using cut and paste techniques,
so there isn't a real postscript image available.