Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: shafer@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Dogfighting tactics Message-ID: <7884@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 30 Jun 89 03:19:56 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Lines: 46 Approved: military@att.att.com From: shafer@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov The most important principle in dogfighting is to keep the fight on your terms, rather than your opponent's. For example, if you're in an F-15 against an F-16, you'll try to keep the fight vertical, because the F-16 can't go vertical as well as the F-15 can. You'll be in control and you'll get the weapons solution first. On the other hand, if you're in the F-16, you'll try to keep the fight horizontal, because the F-15 can't go horizontal as well as the F-16 can. To quote Col Harry Thyng, USAF (10 Victories, WWII and Korean Conflict): Suddenly you go into a steep turn. Your Mach drops off. The MiG turns with you and you let him gradually creep up and outturn you. At the critical moment you reverse your turn. The hydraulic controls [F-86] work beautifully. the MiG [-15] cannot turn as readily as you and is slung out to the side. When you pop your speed brakes, the MiG flashes by you. Quickly closing the brakes, you slide onto his tail and hammer him with your "50's." To quote Lt Dave Pace, USN (Topgun Instructor): Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. We talk in general terms about dogfighting tactics, but it's important to realize that the tactics are different for different aircraft as well as different opponents. Missiles and guns, and their characteristics, are another important factor in tactics. The F-4 is a better heat source than the MiG, so if you're 2 v any, it's best not to use a Sidewinder, since you might kill your wingman rather than your opponent. Your choices are then Sparrows, which aren't `fire-and-forget', or guns. -- -- M F Shafer shafer@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center arpa!elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov!shafer Dryden Flight Research Facility ames!elxsi!shafer Of course I don't speak for NASA "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all." --Unknown US fighter pilot.