Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!geneva.rutgers.edu!christian From: djo@pacbell.com (Dan'l DanehyOakes) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Scripture ends? Message-ID: Date: 6 Jul 89 05:47:54 GMT Sender: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA Lines: 26 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Ye Moderator writeth: >I suggest that you read about Luther's original struggles before he >was "converted". His problem was that he was never sure he had >confessed completely enough, repented completely enough, etc. The >only way he was able to achieve any peace was to realize that it >wasn't up to him: it was God he was relying on for salvation, not on >the thoroughness with which he met any requirement... Or, to quote my own absolutely favoritest bit of Scripture, "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works within you." It's always seemed to me that a bit more attention to this passage would have prevented a lot of heartache over the works vs. faith issue by making a non-issue of it. Have faith: and do the works your faith moves you to do. Do the works you are moved to do: they will strengthen your faith. One coin, two sides. But if we hadn't had the faith vs. works issue, what *would* we have had the Reformation about...:*) >mrrrow, mrkgnao< The Roach without Reproach