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From: mbb@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (martin.b.brilliant)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Turing Test and Subject Bias
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Date: 9 Jul 89 13:40:05 GMT
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From article <1415@uceng.UC.EDU>, by dmocsny@uceng.UC.EDU (daniel mocsny):
> In article <58052@linus.UUCP>, bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort) writes:
>> In article <3118@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk
>> (Gilbert Cockton) writes:
> ....
>>  > I'd love to staff a MacDonald's for a day completely with MENSA types
>>  > to see how their IQ scores prepared them for all the problems of
>>  > fast-food service :-)
>> 
>> I wonder if they would do better than Hamburger Helpers staffing
>> our universities and think tanks.

I know I'm not answering Daniel Mocsny, who (I think) finessed the
MacDonald's question.  I think Gilbert Cockton asked it.  But the
question doesn't have to be finessed.

IQ runs in my family.  My children did well in the best schools and not
so well in others.  The two who best fit that mold also do well in
menial jobs.  They don't do MacDonald's, but they do very well waiting
on tables in restaurants, after hours at college.  One earned money as
a farmhand when she was too young to get any other job.  Of course they
needed training.  Staffing "for a day" doesn't make sense.  But they
trained better than their friends, and stayed on the job longer.

I don't know about Mensa types - I quit Mensa because I didn't need
what that organization offered - but IQ does not by itself disqualify
you from hard work.  It just qualifies you to get a better job.

Unfortunately, it's a necessary qualification, not sufficient.  People
look at machines, etc. and say: "that can't be intelligent."  So
machines, etc. don't get a chance to show what they can do.

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