Xref: utzoo comp.std.misc:140 comp.realtime:113 comp.arch:10524 comp.os.misc:962 comp.misc:6500 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!garnet.berkeley.edu!ked From: ked@garnet.berkeley.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) Newsgroups: comp.std.misc,comp.realtime,comp.arch,comp.os.misc,comp.misc Subject: Re: TRON (a little long) Message-ID: <26079@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 7 Jul 89 03:07:06 GMT References: <32424@apple.Apple.COM> <226@arnor.UUCP> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: ked@garnet.berkeley.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 50 [various comments on the momentous significance of TRON.] My specialty is Japanese history. I cannot claim any particular expertise on TRON. As an historian with some interest in Japanese science and technology, I can say Japanese are capable of matching Americans in hyperbole and boondogles. All of the grantsmanship games known in the US are also known in Japan and then some. TRON may be hype. It may be substance. It may be a mix (the most probable case). In any event, readers should not let the overall reputation of Japanese technology determine their evaluation of TRON. Nor should they let the TRON project director's statements influence their evaluation of the project anymore than they would trust Bush for an objective statement of the effectiveness of the US government! At least one Japanese contributor has suggested that TRON was mainly a device by Japanese micro-manufacturers to gain time until they had something to match NEC (which holds something like ninety percent of the Japanese PeeCee market) for schools and other government funded applications. With twenty plus years studying Japan, six of them in Japan, my inclination would be to believe this particular Japanese contributor. I've read a variety of accounts of TRON in the Japanese press (primarily the Nihon keizai shinbun), and from this I received only one consistent impression: even reasonably well-versed Japanese journalists cannot figure out TRON. Sometimes it appears like a Nintendo game machine with balls. Other times it appears like a UNIX killer (or knock off). Some accounts have styled it a second-generation MSX system. So far, my overall impression is that TRON is second only to the FGP (Fifth Generation Project) in terms of hype. If Japan had a William Proxmire, it would have received a Golden Fleece award. Nevertheless, I am open to counter evidence presented in either English or Japanese (any common kanji protocol or fax). If any Japanese reader feels he/she cannot properly describe the wonders of TRON in English, I am willing to translate any concrete statement provided it is not too long. (Kanji transmissions should be processed with uuencode.) Earl H. Kinmonth History Department University of California, Davis 916-752-1636 (voice, fax [2300-0800 PDT]) 916-752-0776 secretary (bitnet) ehkinmonth@ucdavis.edu (uucp) ucbvax!ucdavis!ucdked!cck (telnet or 916-752-7920) cc-dnet.ucdavis.edu [128.120.2.251] request ucdked, login as guest, no password