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From: dave@celerity.uucp (Dave Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: Stop him before he KILLS AGAIN! (SL Wars)
Keywords: Not again!
Message-ID: <361@celit.UUCP>
Date: 10 Jul 89 22:26:22 GMT
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In article <2367@pembina.UUCP> cdshaw@pembina.UUCP (Chris Shaw) writes:
> [Chris Shaw writes an excellent article expressing the way he feels about
>  Herman Rubin's constant bitchin' and whinin' about what terrible things
>  compilers are]

Amen!  Herman, put up or shut up.  I've seen lots of articles out of you
putting down current languages and saying that everyone should go back
to assembler.  I find current languages suitable, although not perfect,
for what I do: systems programming.  If you think you have better ideas
for language and machine design for mathematical programming, put your
ideas in a coherent form (not a diatribe against C, FORTRAN, or RISC
architectures) and then get some other people to look at them; people who
understand what you want to do (mathematicians) and people who understand
how to do them (computer programmers and computer engineers).  They'll
either see the light or tell you you're full of it.  If they tell you 
you're full of it, you can either believe them or put some of your
_OWN_ time and money into making a system you like.

Do us all a favor.  Stop complaining about how terrible current things are,
get your ideas together and explain why you want things to be the way you
want them.

Putting out your ideas for public review is going to be difficult, because
you won't be able to satisfy everyone and there will be people who try to
use things for purposes which they are not intended for and then bitch
and moan about the results.  Sound familiar Herman?  It's much easier to
criticize than it is to create.
David L. Smith
FPS Computing, San Diego
ucsd!celerity!dave
"Repent, Harlequin!," said the TickTock Man