Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!boulder!unicads!les From: les@unicads.UUCP (Les Milash) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Re: What is a Mainframe? Message-ID: <568@unicads.UUCP> Date: 18 Jul 89 22:24:20 GMT References: <8442@june> <2700018@prisma> <1989Jul17.231819.27809@utzoo.uucp> Reply-To: les@unicads.UUCP (Les Milash) Organization: RISC (Reduced Investor Satisfaction Corp) Lines: 24 In article <1989Jul17.231819.27809@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <2700018@prisma> mo@prisma writes: >>Minicomputers can be moved by two or three people at once (again > >Mike, you have obviously never tried to push a fully-configured rack-mount >Sun up a ramp! :-) (I refuse to believe that a 3/180 is a mainframe.) I saw 4 [BIG] guys brute-force a VAX11/785 with disks out to the loading dock. this is like picking up my Subaru wagon (volume-wise and weight wise). Don't get Steve Cohen from Norfolk VA mad at you; he could probably _throw_ that rack-mount-sun up the ramp at you. A new data-point for the taxonomy: a _Multi_processor_ has more than 0.1% of its weight in silicon (or GaAs). waddya think of _that_, folks? the hughes tuna-can probably qualifies. maybe a bunch of transputers wafers bonded onto a ceramic multilayer substrate would too. Sir Clive's wafer-scale ramdisk might (what ever happened to that, anyway?) i mean we got literally tons of sun's around here, but there's probably less than a gram of Si in the lot, not counting dust in the filters. It _is_ a nice network, tho, works F***in Great. Led Z. Milash