Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!bouma From: bouma@cs.purdue.EDU (William J. Bouma) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Re: Real programmers Summary: what real programmers really do Keywords: forth, lisp Message-ID: <7135@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Date: 17 Jul 89 17:34:09 GMT References: <8907171553.AA17414@lilac.berkeley.edu> Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University Lines: 20 In article <8907171553.AA17414@lilac.berkeley.edu> Forth Interest Group International List writes: >interesting! Erik, I've heard of Lisp (alias Lots of Infuriating, Spurious >Parentheses) implemented on the first NOVIX chip, which ran faster than >any LISP engine, Have you heard of a forth implemented on a Lisp engine >that ran faster than any (other, more than 4-bit) implementation of Forth? Well, even if he had heard of it, that wouldn't make it so. "ran faster" is vague and very subjective especially with lisp. A sun 4 can beat a lisp machine on small jobs simply because its processor is faster. On other code the lisp machine will be faster because it can do garbage collection on the fly. Look, different languages are good for different things. Real programmers decide based on the application, machine, and what is available which language to use. All that this discussion has said so far is that forth can be written in lisp and lisp can be written in forth. Big deal! -- Bill || ...!purdue!bouma