Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!iuvax!watmath!watcgl!andrewt From: andrewt@watsnew.waterloo.edu (Andrew Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Wanted: Info. on IBUKI vs. Sun Common Lisp Message-ID: Date: 7 Jul 89 19:03:56 GMT References: <925@iraun1.ira.uka.de> Sender: daemon@watcgl.waterloo.edu Organization: University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Lines: 35 In-reply-to: newbery@Toronto.ira.uka.de's message of 6 Jul 89 07:36:46 GMT In article <925@iraun1.ira.uka.de> newbery@Toronto.ira.uka.de (Francie Newbery) writes: Does anyone have any experience to report on IBUKI Common Lisp especially in comparison with Sun Common Lisp? I'm particularly interested in performance aspects and whether the same set of programs will actually run on both. I have been using IBUKI on a uVAX II under Ultrix, and a Sun 3/60 Sun O/S 3, for about 8 months. I am not in a position to judge how it compares to Sun Common Lisp as I have never seen it. I can say that in 8 months I have never run into any Common Lisp construct (from Guy L. Steele Jr. - Common Lisp) which did not work as advertised. I have never had a core dump except from incorrectly invoked compiled code (my fault). Nor have I ever had a construct fail to compile. As far as I know, IBCL is a modification of KCL, so you can probably get fairly accurate timing comparisons by looking at KCL. I have successfully used IBCL with PCL and CLX, though not extensively. (Basically, they compiled and loaded and ran). One nice feature about IBCL is that it comes with a GNU Emacs major mode which is ultra-handy. While this is not as good as a LISPM enviroment, it is still pretty nice. My only complaint about IBCL is the large executable size. My application uses no extras like PCL, and the executable is still about 2.4 Meg. With CLX loaded it's 3.8 MEg, and with PCL loaded it's 3.4 Meg. with both CLX and PCL it's 5.2 Meg. This is enough to make me unpopular with the system people once in a while. Hope this helps, -- Andrew Thomas andrewt@watsnew.waterloo.edu Systems Design Eng. University of Waterloo "If a million people do a stupid thing, it's still a stupid thing." - Opus